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Mountain Power House
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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I agree.. go straight to a 94 bore and drive the piss out of it! _________________ Jake Raby
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Cave Man
Joined: 09 Mar 2009 Posts: 52 Location: Cave Spring, Ga
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:10 am Post subject: |
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Jon wrote: | serprice wrote: | I have a little time to decide what I'm gonna do anyway. No need to be in a hurry to go fast Most likely I'll still go 1776 with dual kads. Atleast for this one. Anyway,I do appreciate all the insight and the offer to use your stuff. I will definately take advantage. Anything I can do for you dont hesitate. |
Go BIG or go HOME! If you build a 1776 it won't be long before you say "Why didn't I build something bigger?" Seriously. |
Here Here!!! I had the 1776 doin 100 hp at the tires and wanted more. I got a 2110 and not sure why because its more that I need and I still havent got all the kinks out of it yet.
If you havent bought the Kads yet man Im tellin you for a 1776 you cant beat a small set of dells. I had 36s with bone stock not cleaned up heads doin 80 hp to the tires and with a set of ported 40x35.5s got to the 100 mark. Dells are the way to go.
If you are going to build a 1776 and buy the parts new it cost no more to go 1915. Thats the ticket in my book. If I ever build another that will be the one. _________________ 1962 "Red Rocket" 2110 Toy
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serprice
Joined: 26 Nov 2007 Posts: 349 Location: Statham
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:24 am Post subject: |
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Screw it! I'm doin it.yall are right . If I settle now I'll regret it later. I want a runnin bitch! Whet should I do for heads. Where should I get em? I got a couple months . I still have to get the case machined. I just wanted an idea of what I was doing before I bought anything. _________________ Shane Price
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Cave Man
Joined: 09 Mar 2009 Posts: 52 Location: Cave Spring, Ga
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:33 am Post subject: |
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serprice wrote: | Screw it! I'm doin it.yall are right . If I settle now I'll regret it later. I want a runnin bitch! Whet should I do for heads. Where should I get em? I got a couple months . I still have to get the case machined. I just wanted an idea of what I was doing before I bought anything. |
40x35.5 would be fine for heads. And if you can find a set of 041 and follow the Cal Looks Ohio Toms article on cleaning them up and a mild port job I think you would have a very nice set of heads. The key is to deside what you wont.
1. Heat or Speed
2. What RPM range are you willing to opperate in? You dont wont all your power above 4500(for example) because around town it would suck!!
Then go and follow the 1915 plan that Jake laid out and be happy when you are done because it will pull like a beast and have enough top end too.
But like jake was telling you the best place to get power is the heads. Ported vs stock on my 17776 was 20+hp. Too much porting and you dont get the bottom end for drivability. _________________ 1962 "Red Rocket" 2110 Toy
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serprice
Joined: 26 Nov 2007 Posts: 349 Location: Statham
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:42 am Post subject: |
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I'm with ya. I want to make hp up to around 5500-6000 rpms but I want low end drivabilty . I drive my bug everyday and I dont want something thats a trick just to take off. Know what I mean? Something that dont fall on its face at 1500 rpm in 2nd gear.
Oh btw Jake, you are correct sir. The F.I. case is an as21. Which with further inspection will definately need alignboring. I guess I never looked at it that close cause I never really planned on using it. Its not trashed or anything.I'd say no more than .040 to clean it up. Is full flowing something I can do myself? It doesnt appear to be much to it. _________________ Shane Price
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Jon Site Admin
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Posts: 2421 Location: Bishop GA
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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I think Clyde can full flow the cases for us. _________________ 73 Typ481
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Mountain Power House
Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 879 Location: Aircooled Heaven USA
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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Get a pair of the oval port CNC heads from CB.. The 40X35.5 valves will work fine and for this combo I'd run 9.5:1 and a Web 121/125 cam.. Its a nasty son of a bitch that still pulls well down low.
The AS 21 case is a nice case to build from, my turbo 1915 is built from one of those.. It used to be the primo case to have back in the 80s and 90s and I still prefer them.
Clyde can do the Full flow, its not hard at all... Nothing like building a sweep the floor engine, nothing is more fun to me! _________________ Jake Raby
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serprice
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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Those look like pretty good heads! I thought they were gonna be alot more expensive then that. Thats not bad at all! _________________ Shane Price
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serprice
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Where do I by a Web cam? _________________ Shane Price
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Mountain Power House
Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 879 Location: Aircooled Heaven USA
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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From Web cam.. 951.369.5144 Call and talk to Debbie, tell her I sent you:-)
That chick knows her way around a cam! _________________ Jake Raby
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serprice
Joined: 26 Nov 2007 Posts: 349 Location: Statham
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Damn i'm gettin pumped! I'm ready to be done with it now! What all do I need to bring when I get ready to balance. I assume crank, rods, pistons, flywheel. I have 4-5 good cranks . I will mic and inspect and use the best one. What do you think is a good estimate as far as horsepower for this combo? _________________ Shane Price
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Jon Site Admin
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Posts: 2421 Location: Bishop GA
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Will a stock crank work or does it need to be counter-weighted?
Shane and I have been talking about building the same combo and see how close they are to each other when we finish.
Shane if you order a cam, get two.
Are these the heads? http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=1794 _________________ 73 Typ481
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Mountain Power House
Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 879 Location: Aircooled Heaven USA
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Keep that crank light.. counterweighting not needed. Hell I cut weight off of cranks!
They'll probably make 125HP if you put real carbs on them, like a 44 weber or 45 dellorto with a merged header.
Don't build the same combo, build them differently and see who makes the most power. _________________ Jake Raby
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66 Bug -The Plague Returns!
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73 Superbeetle (Suby Power!)
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Cave Man
Joined: 09 Mar 2009 Posts: 52 Location: Cave Spring, Ga
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:25 am Post subject: |
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http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=1181
these are what I have on my 2110. The 1776 had 041s that Steve did a stage 3 on. they were great and had the 40x35.5 and not the bigger 42x37s I have now. Not sure that the bigger valves are helping me too much? _________________ 1962 "Red Rocket" 2110 Toy
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Jon Site Admin
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Posts: 2421 Location: Bishop GA
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:57 am Post subject: |
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Mountain Power House wrote: | Engle 125 cam W 1.25 rockers
9.5:1 CR
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How does this cam/rockers combo differ from the webcam you recommened for Shane? _________________ 73 Typ481
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