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71_georgia_beetle



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:32 am    Post subject: Engine From Hell Reply with quote

OK, I am trying to get the damn gland nut off and I am at a loss. 500 ft lb tq impact wrench and nothing, gallons of PB and nothing, angle iron with a 1/2" breaker and........


3/4" breaker and........


and at the advise of the idiot manual "use a sharp chisel and hit about 1/4" back from tip of one side" and......


It sheers off. I had the angle iron on it, wife standing on the opposite head, 24" 3/4" breaker bar with a 4' cheater and nothing but !!snap!!. Tomorrow, unless you guys have an idea, I will be borrowing my father-in-laws 1" impact wrench. 1200ft lb tq and get it.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get one of those fancy shmancy torque meister, torque dude or what ever they call it tools. Or if you don't want to buy one I have one you can borrow.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cavediver520 wrote:
Get one of those fancy shmancy torque meister, torque dude or what ever they call it tools. Or if you don't want to buy one I have one you can borrow.


That's the ticket! The torquemeister will get it. If it will still fit the mangled nut. I also have one you can borrow.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like an idiot with a chisel got a hold of that gland nut.. That explains a lot.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Care to elaborate oh wise one.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, Some bolts or screws that are hard to break loose and are damage to the point that a tool won't fit it you can get in to the edge of it with a hammer and chisel. But this is usually for stuff like small screws and as a last resort. Not a gland nut torque to 250+ ft lbs. Laughing I guess he couldn't find the channel-lock pliers. You can see the edge that looks carved into. That dude aint built many vw engines if he thought he was gonna turn that thing like that. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:59 pm    Post subject: Gland nut Reply with quote

looks like the gland nut on the flywheel is whooping the gland nut
trying to remove it. I also have a torque master tool , you can get it off with a 3/8 rachet it multiplies big time
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Guys...........the dip shit that took the chisel to it is me!!!!!!. I have now used a 250lb, 650lb and a 1450lb impact wrench and that bastard won't budge. I thought the damn thing would sheer off with this bad ass on it but she held in there.


Gonna track down a torque multiplying tool and then call it quits.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How goes the scott vs gland nut struggle?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try turning it the OTHER way! Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like someone used loctite.. Hit it with a torch and the loctite will be compromised, then you can break torque on it.

Why the hell did you use a chisel on it?? Thats medieval mechanic work.

If all else fails load it up and bring it to me.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know mechanics that use a hammer and punch to get fan clutches off of waterpumps instead of the big fan wrench. I guess it works but it looks like s**t. It looks shade tree and I hate that s**T!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't mean to sound like a know it all, but impact wrenches need really big hoses to put out their full power. We've got a 1/2" line at work for our big gun.
I had a stubborn gland nut on the first engine in my bug back in '95, and took it to a diesel repair place, where they zipped it loose in a second.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didnt think of that. Good point Clyde. You can have the badest ass gun in th land. But if you cant get pressure and volume to it its useless.Then again I have a little rinky-dink 17gal comp. with an old 3/8 airhose. I put my good Snap-on impact on it and it zips glandnuts right off. Do you have enough air pressure?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are correct, it's a 1" line. My father in law is/was a diesel mechanic so it was not under powered.

Thanks to Eric (39coupe), I now have the gland nut off. It didn't happen like I've seen in the videos. I put the torque multiplier on, applied a 1/2" drive ratchet with a 7/16" socket, put my ass in to it and.......................nothing. So, I put on a 4' cheater and ......................snap!. There's a trip to Sears for a ratchet replacement. Then I put on a box end wrench, 6' cheater pipe, balanced myself with with a broom and climbed on...........nothing. So I bounced and bounced and bounced and eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek! Finally, the damn thing is off!

So, for someone smarter than me, please figure out the total torque value of a torque multiplier, 6' cheater with 208lbs on the end..........bouncing.

There was half a bottle of red loc tite on the damn thing.
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